Hall Property Lawsuit
Here we go. It doesn't take Carnac the Magnificent to predict this coming. Petco Park took less trouble to build. Maybe the city should threaten to pull the park and build it in Chula Vista.

Carnac: When hell freezes over?
Ed: Ha, ha. When hell freezes over, Carnac.
Carnac: When will the Hall Property park be built.
Ed: (falls off chairs laughing).

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Well folks, the promised CEQA lawsuit has been filed by those neighbors who object to the conceptual park planned for the former Hall property.
The City Attorney will study the complaint, advise the City Council, and I am confident we will take action to defend the City and the approved plan.
By the way, there are also two Coastal Commission appeals of the park approval, and they will also likely be defended vigorously. The Coastal Commission hearing will be in January in San Diego, so any who wish to attend and opine can do so.
ingsmanWe probably would have a community park built by now with three fields and more open public ammenities.
The hard, no compromise stance of the Special Use groups have got us to this point. I have to agree with the Planning Department's recomendations. ( the city council is 3 for 3 in voting against their recomdations). I have driven around Cardiff, and their streets are very narrow and there are no mitigations to solve the future traffic concerns. I probably would not want thirty 90 ft. light poles in my neighborhood either.
Well, through the unbending efforts of the active only contingent, we have and will have no anything for many years.
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The votes to overturn well thought-out Planning Commission recommendations have been over turned by the bully-boys 3-2.
But follow the money...Jerome & Jim have nice fat campaign donations from their special interest friends.
Follow the money again...the city manager and the mayor set the agenda. This item appeared on the agenda just after the sports park campaign flyer "Go Long for Stocks and Bond" hit the mail boxes.
Looks like the boys called in their favor for the city manager's $30,000 raise (another 3-2 vote).
Jerome Stocks - a bag full of hot air
Anonymous- a bag full of hot air
Go back to the original design and build that park so ALL the people win and not just a chosen few.
Ya'll voted for Stocks at Jerome risk, now looky whatchoo got...
petco park and the surrounding redevelopment district has been a massive drain on the city of san diego at the benefit of a few developers and the Padres owner. It is too bad those lawsuits didn't succeed, and they didn't because no judge wanted to go against the public relations nightmare that would follow.
The Hall Property has been a community distraction that has been used by Jerome to distract the community from his lack of financial restraint and poor management of the city.
I don't know wwho the hwck "Hamish" is but he/she doesn't know crap about Encinitas' financial situation which is in great shape due to the stewardship of Jerome Stocks.
If Schmuckish Hamish has specific information to contradict the facts that as Mayor Jerome Stocks increased Encinitas' financial reserves and had Encinitas employees pay their share of increased pension benefits while adopting balanced budgets, lets here it.
I for one am TIRED of bullshit vague character assasinations of good people!
Three years ago the city borrowed $20 million (over 30 years it will cost the city almost twice that amount). That is why the city has a reserve fund.
Don't forget Stocks & Co. also told the public that if the voters didn't approve an increase in the Lighting and Landscape fees the city would have to turn off street lights (The voters turned that one down and the lights are still on)
And who can forget the "Clean Water" fee that the courts ruled illegal?
Oh yeah, Stocks & Co. are real financial wizards.
NOBODY at the city said any light would be turned off. That's BS and I challenge the LIAR to prove I'm wrong.
In Vista they said that stupid stuff, but not in Encinitas.
Re: LIES!
"NOBODY at the city said any light would be turned off "... but everything else in the post is correct?
The city borrowed $23 million to buy the Hall property. This will cost $45 million to pay back.
The library went over budget, and the city borrowed another $20 million to finance it. This will cost $40 million to pay back.
This is good financial management? You must be kidding. With falling receipts from sales taxes, property taxes, and rates and fees our city will be in a bind to balance the budget.
Something's gotta give.
To follow the money lies,
We should just ask Jerome and get to the bottom of it.
To Jerome,
Did anyone say the lights might be turned off?
I believe it was Kerry Miller, City Manager, who said the lights might have to be turned off. Others at the city may have said it too.
Jerome, can you confirm or deny
this?
Made a quick search through the North County Times archives. I couldn't find a quote from anyone about turning off the lights.
But found this great one from Jim Bond saying the wording on the ballot "bordered on deceptive"
Read it for yourself...
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/06/16/news/coastal/23_22_316_15_05.txt
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